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    Hi everyone,

    we're more than happy to finally share news about this exciting route with you! Cornwall West Local: Penzance - St. Austell is coming to Train Sim World 2 - including the Class 150, the Class 37 and the "Seacow" and "Turbot" wagons.

    Dovetail published an article with Kaya from our routebuilding team and Matt from the vehicle team today - find it here: https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/...way-to-st-ives


    Find some first screenshots attached! Are you as excited as we are? 😍
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    • #47
      Excited yes, the scenery though, not so sure but hey, it's still WIP so I'm hopeful 🙂

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      • #48
        Rivet That photo of St Ives is nothing like the place. You will have to do better than that, if I am to buy your addon. It has to look right and the buildings used are too modern. If you want some pictures I can arrange but you are way off with St. Ives that your design is truly an insult to a quaint little seaside resort of some renown. Get it right please. Just Trains go to exceptional lengths to get the scenery right. Your rendition of St. Ives is disgraceful. If a job is worth doing, do it well or don’t bother. I hope you will look at some photos and change the style of buildings to be near as possible life like. I will happily design it for you, if you cannot get it right.
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        • #49
          Do the Seacow and Turbot wagons get there own sounds rather than the "shopping cart" sounds in the core? Also, I'm confused as to why the 37/5 was elected as a feature of this route and not something like the newer Mk2, Mk2f, coaches and a different locomotive. Having done the Seacow and Turbot wagons, the Mk2fs aren't a stretch.

          Also isn't sand supposed to be bright yellow rather than brown like mud?
          https://forums.rivet-games.com/filedata/fetch?id=5362

          All of the screenshots provided are dark and lack any sort of vibrance compared to these photos (which is just reference material, a 5 second google):

          https://www.visitcornwall.com/sites/...y-christie.jpg
          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._view_2009.jpg
          https://photos.smugmug.com/WestCount...628-1024-L.jpg
          https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...36/unknown.png

          I'd suggest that the colour composition for the entire route gets looked at again. As well as the lacking distant scenery shown here at St Ives.




          Which clearly shows a distinct lack of buildings... seriously lacking and inaccurate. But also the landmass is legitametly incorrectly sized. This leg of land stretches a lot further away than that and you can see the grassy hill in the back of the photo with a building on top. There's more beach and over a hundred houses situated on this stretch of the coast. In addition, where is the walkway adjacent to the car park?




          Why does Penzance have so many trees in this DLC? There's clearly nowhere for them to grow because A) the building is 200m away from rocks and water B) it's surrounded by road infrastructure and has a car park with built stone walls on both sides C) there's literally houses across the road.



          "We have worked on blending the waves together, so it doesn’t look as tiled" - so is this image out of date or something? Marketing is art.



          I think this gap between the train and the platform is a bit excessive; that's a good half metre.

          Works of fiction can't be endorsed, not gonna lie. "We had a lot of reference material from past to present" - you've claimed to have extensive reference material but you (as a studio) have gotten all of the scenery wrong so far. Yet as of the third route DLC produced here with yet again wrong environments, the scenery quality is improving. The only thing left to get correct is sounds and physics. Given that Armstrong Powerhouse legit has your recordings, the 150/2 must be good if they can mix it like that right?

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          • #50
            Can I just leave this here as feedback….there’s 6 week or so to hopefully rectify

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            • Sparmi
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              The darker looking beach could be wet, after a rainy day. Of course there are differences between a wet or a dry beach during rainy or sunny weather. It's about the same as dry and wet asphalt. I looked for the route and many sections lead along the beach. In addition, there should be snow in winter...

            • Chieflongshin
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              I just hope the model of Alcatraz on the peninsula goes and the Rocky outcrop next to beach has a second pass. I’d like to buy this route, will be my first rivet product but I will go without if it’s a lemon

          • #51
            Where Chieflongshin has said remove, its a little harsh, but those building are there, but they are not uniform like a terrace, they are higgledy-piggledy, they are not a Victorian prison wing! But I note that they used the same Prison wing for the hotels on the side of the hill!

            I am just interested in driving the train to St Ives..

            Lets hope it all works

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            • #52
              I’m sorry but I sincerely hope St Ives is still wip. It is wholly inaccurate

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              • #53
                How many services will there be for the class 150

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                • Jasper_Rivet
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                  As it is right now: 61 services for the Class 150/2, 6 for the Class 37/5. This can change though.

              • #54
                Thanks a lot for the feedback we received on the inital screenshots - this is really helpful for us! We've been and are working on those areas and I'm convinced that the updated version looks a lot better. More images on that soon!


                In the meantime: The Walkaround Preview for the BR Class 150/2 is now live on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1gB24Y62BTg

                Enjoy! 😉
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                • #55
                  Very excited for this as a long time train sim user and also huge St Ives-goer.

                  Agree with above comments. It will take some doing to get St Ives more detailed and accurate, but it is such an iconic view from the train, it is as important to get right as it is important to get right the shapes of the trains.

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                  • #56
                    Just watched the YouTube video of the class 150/2. Looks amazing.

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                  • #57
                    Thanks for all the useful feedbacks and for your appreciation of our preview!

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                    • #58
                      Originally posted by Jasper_Rivet View Post
                      Thanks a lot for the feedback we received on the inital screenshots - this is really helpful for us! We've been and are working on those areas and I'm convinced that the updated version looks a lot better. More images on that soon!


                      In the meantime: The Walkaround Preview for the BR Class 150/2 is now live on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1gB24Y62BTg

                      Enjoy! 😉

                      a thing I wanted to touch on is what livery will the class 37/5 have on this route?
                      Rail freight sector?
                      Br Blue?
                      EWS?

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                      • Jasper_Rivet
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                        We'll update you on this soon - but first is always best, isn't it? 😉

                    • #59
                      Whilst the 150/2 looks amazing, myself and many players of the TSW community have big CONCERNS regarding the recent walk around video that you posted.

                      Issues found / noticed:

                      1. Engine stuck in notch 5 / compressor speed up whilst the unit is at idle?
                      2. Brakes showing up as 4bar when in full service?
                      3. Door closing alarm when closing the local door? (This shouldn’t happen)
                      4. Reverser turns the wrong way?
                      5. Delay needs to be added for the AWS.

                      Going from your previous releases you give us first look videos when the product is nearly complete.

                      please do not release this route until you have looked into these points. I’ve taken them from a TSW group, in which many players are saying the exact same things!

                      Please fix these things!

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                      • Jasper_Rivet
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                        Thanks a lot for the feedback, I've forwarded this to our devs!

                    • #60
                      Just a couple of pictures from my visit to Penzance.

                      Note the Scillonian 3 on the quay (yes it doesnt go on Sundays) You can also see the church on the hill quite clearly.

                      Nice mosaic in the station wall.

                      Also note from Hayle, you can actually see St Ives in the distance on a clear day.

                      One thing not in the photos, but worth mentioning. Your trees at Penzance station, they are actually Palm trees, not what ever you have used

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